Ear candling (ear coning)

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I don't want to open a big can of worms, but I'm really interested if people can briefly and concisely give their opinion on Ear Candling or Ear Coning. I've been asked to do it at a couple of my workplaces and have done so, but I'm not 100% convinced about whether I should be.

I'll probably only read about 10-15 posts, so try not to bombard me with responses, just after a quick, small survey of opinion.

Thanks again for your help,
Luke.
 


Not that I want to overwhelm your reading capability but here are some links where this subject has been discussed:

http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185&highlight=ear+cone

http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3276&highlight=ear+candling

http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2538&highlight=ear+candling

http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2541&highlight=ear+candling

http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7183&highlight=ear+candling

http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8987&highlight=ear+candling

Angie
 


Don't know what your liability ins. covers, but the 2 used by most MTs in the US specifically will NOT cover ear candling, so I wouldn't consider doing it simply because of that.

I think it can do something beneficial for the ear. The visual evidence that some enthusiastic practitioners point to (melted wax, white powdery substance) has repeatedly been shown to be candle drippings/ash, so the candles obviously aren't drawing up big gobs of wax or visibly pulling up "infection," but when I have had it done (at home), my ears have felt better afterward. Not miraculously better, but a little better.

If I were paying for it, I would want to see that the practitioner had actually had some training. And why not use an otoscope too, to check for any visible changes?
 


I used to do it many years ago but stopped because I personally think that even though it may have some small positive effect it is an over-hyped gimmick.
 


I did it at one point but stopped when hearing the horror stories. Plus it isn't in my scope of practice so for legal reasons, I don't do it.
 
Thankyou

Thanks everyone, and sorry about the repeat posting.

I understand about the scope of practice aspect, but when you get a job in a day spa you generally do whatever treatments they ask you to do, there's a bit of pressure there.

If there's a safety issue there, then I think thats a pretty good reason not to do it. Having read through the other threads relating to this modality - what does bother me is people using the term "quackery". I find this to be an intentionally inflammatory term, and inappropriate considering the therapists who do candling are generally either told to do it, or really believe that it can help.

Just my thoughts on the issue, I think I'll tell my employer to count me out.
 


If you are an employee of a spa, then the liabilities aren't really an issue. Were anything to happen, it would fall on the business and their insurance. Unless of course you signed some insane contract.

Someone posted a link to a German company that sells ear candles with a built in 'screen' to prevent candle wax from entering the ear canal. It must have been in one of those other threads. If I still ear candled, I would get those.
 


softhearted515 said:
If you are an employee of a spa, then the liabilities aren't really an issue. Were anything to happen, it would fall on the business and their insurance. Unless of course you signed some insane contract.

Professional liability IS an issue for an MT. We can be personally sued right along with the facility. That is why it is prudent to each carry professional liability insurance, and why most spas require that of each MT.
 


softhearted515 said:
If you are an employee of a spa, then the liabilities aren't really an issue. Were anything to happen, it would fall on the business and their insurance.

I dunno - I would be hesitant to take that view. Not that anything's going to happen, really, but -- if a client feels they really need to sue over negligence/injury, I can't imagine that a lawyer would advise just choosing one party to sue. It seems that lawsuits often name more than one culpable party, such as an individual for directly causing harm AND a facility for failing to supervise the individual, etc.

Although, I can't imagine liability ins. would even be tappable for ear candling culpability, since both the ABMP and AMTA policies explicitly state that EC is not covered. Which I guess would mean that the practitioner ethically should make sure they are covered for EC mishaps by a separate policy - either of the spa, or some other policy they purchase themselves?
 


I don't think the OP is an AMTA member, if I recall he isn't in the states. So I would think his insurance might be worded differently.

I worked at a spa and we did not need to have our own insurance because we were employee's and it is the companies responsiblity to insure for all situations. I also worked for a small massage practice as an employee... same situation. And they did have a suit filed against them to which they took care of, not the employee.

An example.... a spill on a restaurant floor not cleaned up properly. You fall, you sue. You sue the restaurant, not the negligent employee.

But I would not doubt that in some cases, the employee would get sued. This is the joy of the American legal system.
 


softhearted515 said:
I worked at a spa and we did not need to have our own insurance because we were employee's and it is the companies responsiblity to insure for all situations. I also worked for a small massage practice as an employee... same situation. And they did have a suit filed against them to which they took care of, not the employee.

At our clinic, we require all of our employees to carry their own liability insurance in addition to the clinic carrying it's own insurance. Employees can be and are sued.

The reason they don't sue the restaurant employee is because most of them work for little better than minimum wage and don't have anything to be sued for. And....most of them are not "trained professionals." Most therapists have had to go through education and licensing requirements and therefore are held to a higher standard than restaurant workers.

Angie

Angie
 
suing day spa therapists

lol! From what I've seen, restaurant workers here are far more likely to have a few dollars on them than the day spa employees. Mind you I've mostly been to snow/tropical resort based day spas.

Either way they're usually both broke - they might have an ipod or something I guess...have to just lock em up!
 
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    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  44. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  47. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard street west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl MIMI๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ apple- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic beauty with great service and attitude kโ€†k- Spunky fun in... Attachments Call and text 6478910699 Ask...
  48. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅOur famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday May 22nd with busty 36DD young girl Bobo, Sexy New Petite Japanese Cutie Mico and Sweet Sensual Busty Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Call Annie Spa to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐ŸฉทAnnie Spa๐Ÿฉท 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 โ˜Ž๏ธ647-891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ
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