90 minutes ... fully clothed!

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I got a call today from a woman wanting to redeem her 90 minute gift certificate. I booked her for 10 hours from now since I had an opening. Then she tells me she wants the massage fully clothed and wants deep tissue. She said she's very skin sensitive and can't take any oils with a hint of fragrances. I told her I had natural grapeseed oil, completely unscented, but she didn't budge. (She's in holistic therapies herself, does energy work, gets acupressure regularly and has had massage before, so she knows what she's asking for.)

Naturally, I'm a bit bewildered how I will be able to do 90 minutes through clothing. I've done enough chair massage to know how raw my hands can get. I'm thinking I'll take a satin sheet with me to work through, but I'm unsure if that'll really help much.

There's not much time for a response before the session happens, but no matter, if you have any thoughts let me know. Her reasons for needing clothed massage may be other than what she's stated, but as long as she's not hiding something detrimental to me I'm okay with her "reasons."

BTW, I'm trained in Swedish, Deep Tissue, Myofascial Release and Hot Stone. I figure in addition to whatever regular stuff I can achieve, I'll try some deep MFR (if the clothing is smooth), joint mobilization (though I don't know a lot of stretches), vibration (body rocking), tapotement and compressions. I wonder if she'll let me do her neck and head without coverings? Sigh...
 


Just work very slowly and intentionally, and the time will fly. Satin to work through does help - they even sell something satiny through Massage Warehouse for doing chair massage. I work a lot through clothing and have done 2 hour massages - one 3 hour DT massage - through the clothing. You will do fine. Trigger point is even pretty manageable, as long as she wears soft, stretchy clothing and not jeans! Though it can be done through jeans.....
 


I too have a few clients who need me to work on them through clothes for various reasons. Massage Warehouse has this product called "Magic Hands" that is a double satin piece of cloth that is really effective. You are able to do massage strokes that you would normally need lotion to do. I was surpised how good it worked.
 


Since you don't have time to buy a product to help.....

You said you do hot stones.... use em!

I also agree, go slow!
 


If it were me, I would lower my table and do lots and lots of compression, myofascial work, and stretching! Since she'll be clothed it'll be real easy to do some of those stretches that normally require fiddling with the drape.

Also, since she sounds experienced, you could ask her exactly what she wants. Ask her specifically what other therapists have done that she liked.

Let us know how it goes!
 


Hi.

I too can vouch for "you can make this work". In the office I really prefer not to work through clothes, because it does make it somewhat harder on the therapist -- but, I have a great experience to share, that may help along with the other wonderful replies.

We had the great opportunity to work on everyone from Extreme Makeover Home Edition, when they came to our city. It was freaking cold and rainy outside and they had us stationed in a large tent with a heater blower afixed underneath one tent side! :) Obviously everyone kept their clothes on (and boots!) and we had a bucket load of blankets on top of the clients. We would do anywhere from 10 min. to 1 and 1/2 hour massages. The best way we found to do this, was to use a lot of compression work. Like someone else said, slow it down and the time will fly.

An additional note: I would have thought the massage wouldn't of felt good, but each and every person was really happy about it.

I am sure you're gal will love what you do. And, I second, using those hot stones if she'll let ya. :smt045

Hope you will let us know how it goes!
 


I know I'm coming in late here, but if the issue is product being used on the skin, then what about working without any lubricant and unclothed? Anything that you would do over clothing would be easier to do directly to her tissues.

Unless she is embarrassed and has other issues about disrobing, and is using the sensitive skin issue as an easy out for herself.
 


Thanks to everyone for the thoughtful and timely responses and the private message (gee, y'all are night owls!). The session went really well. I feel certain there is definitely some other issue (or belief) than just oils, 'cause from what I could see her skin was in beautiful condition (arms, neck/head and ankles exposed) and when I told her I could do MFR which doesn't require any oils or creams, plus other techniques sans lubricants, she still declined. She wouldn't even let me take off her short socks when I gently asked.

I started supine and worked on her neck/scalp/face first and she said she could feel some leg release from the MFR I did on her neck (her right leg was the subjectively-stated major problem). I tried using the satin sheet and it did make some difference, but I also found that the clothing she wore was fine for the most part, so I didn't use the sheet much. Most of the things I tried worked and I simply moved on from the things that didn't. She was very good-natured about the little stumbles (like diving under her back with my hand and pulling up the erectors, that just bunched her shirt and caused my hand to stutter coming up her back, if you can imagine what I mean). I didn't use any hot stones, maybe another time.

Anyway, it wasn't nearly as much of a challenge as I'd imagined and she was really delighted with the results. She even said she has a good number of MT friends she's tried and I'm only the third that she would actually recommend (the other two are in neighboring states), which was a nice compliment. She scheduled a second appointment and took a bunch of my cards to give out. So I'd say it was a success!
 


BackCountryMassage said:
...She scheduled a second appointment and took a bunch of my cards to give out. So I'd say it was a success!

Whoo hoo!

Thanks for letting us know what you did, too! Always nice to have a few new tricks in my bag. :)
 


I'm thinking that maybe I'll do a practice session on someone sometime so that if I am ever asked to do a fully clothed massage (non-CST session) I'll have had some experience. I do some clothed work, but have never done a full 60 or 90-minute clothed deep tissue session.

Thanks for the info ... and Great job!!! :smt023
 


I just wanted to reiterate that which was already said above: if you use a satin sheet, be sure to double it up to give you glide. I'm now thinking about making myself a version of the "Magic Massager" Massage Warehouse sells: http://www.massagewarehouse.com/itemdetail~cat~~MENU~~item~230+0082.asp

Good idea to get a practice session in before you're confronted with an actual clothed client!
 


BackCountryMassage said:
I just wanted to reiterate that which was already said above: if you use a satin sheet, be sure to double it up to give you glide. I'm now thinking about making myself a version of the "Magic Massager" Massage Warehouse sells: http://www.massagewarehouse.com/itemdetail~cat~~MENU~~item~230+0082.asp

I highly recommend the Magic Massager. I have two sizes and take them with me when I do chair massage. I have also used them for a few clients who did not want legs/thighs undraped to work on (but were ok with over the sheet work). So, I pulled out the magic massager and was able to work smoothly over the blanket.
 


Hey, BackCountry--just a thought, since you said that she declined to work unclothed--maybe it is trauma-related? Even though she has experience with massage, a trauma experience could explain her unwillingness to disrobe as well as her dislike for oils and scents.

I could be barking up the wrong tree completely, but just wanted to pass along my thoughts.

Glad that it went so well for you, btw! Working over clothing is definitely not my favorite, and it's encouraging to hear that it can go really well.
 


I just purchased the Magic Massager, it is handy to have with me, for the "just in cases"

Backcountry, getting a silk sheet is/was a great idea, that might be nice to have in my arsenal of things also.
 


I just bought the Magic Massager too. Came in handy when I was doing chair massage at a salon and everyone had sweaters on. I just love it.
 
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    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (Philippines) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปgive you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body , young cute Sophia slime 30โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Gorgeous Busty Boobs Taiwan๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ Girl Angel working with Sexy Exotic Filipina๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญGirl Molly & Sweet Shy Pretty Girl Kitty๐Ÿ˜ป and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
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