Client/therapist relationship???

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Handsonlmt describes a scenario which I have yet to experience in my 7 years as a massage therapist: the client that instantly relaxes and accepts my skillful bodywork because they can somehow sense from my touch that they can trust my care, compassion, empathy, and non-judgement. Oh, if it were only that easy!!

Friendship and the client-practitioner relationship are certainly not mutually exclusive. I am talking about friendship within the treatment and office...Many (most) people do not blindly trust a therapist no matter how impeccably professional they present themselves and their treatment space. Many people, myself included can relax and accept and get something out of a massage treatment only when feeling a rapport, common ground with the person that has their hands on them. Sometimes this takes many sessions to feel at ease with a therapist. It often includes a give and take of conversation perhaps including what some people would call "personal" information. Many clients relax while chatting. Even more can only relax after they have talked about that which has been annoying them about their husband/wife/teenager/boss all week--and they are not about to share that information with you unless they know you've been there.

I agree that a massage therapy session is the client's session. But it has been my experience that many clients don't want a session as described by McIntosh and Handsonlmt.

Somewhat reiterating what Stacey said, an ethical framework is exceedingly important, but making a conscious decision about what that is for you and your clients is even more so.

Noel
 


seekingequanimity said:
Friendship and the client-practitioner relationship are certainly not mutually exclusive. I am talking about friendship within the treatment and office.

I think it's important to distinguish between "being friendly" and "friendship". In my opinion, being personable & caring to clients -- asking about families, sharing a little about yourself, all fall in the "friendly" category. Seeing clients outside of work falls into the "friend" category. That second category is where problems can develop, simply because dual relationships pose definite challenges. I think that's what Handsonlmt was talking about.
 


I think it's important to distinguish between "being friendly" and "friendship". In my opinion, being personable & caring to clients -- asking about families, sharing a little about yourself, all fall in the "friendly" category. Seeing clients outside of work falls into the "friend" category. That second category is where problems can develop, simply because dual relationships pose definite challenges. I think that's what Handsonlmt was talking about.

Thank you Bliss. Your understanding of my post is correct and you have gone one step further and refined it to its essence.

I agree that a massage therapy session is the client's session. But it has been my experience that many clients don't want a session as described by McIntosh and Handsonlmt.

Seekingequanimity, I am not sure what you are trying to say in this statement. What type of session are you referring too?
As far as experiences go, and from what I have seen posted so far, the interaction between the MT and client is pretty standard. A friendly exchange and then we get down to business. Many of our clients share very personal information during a session, but that is not the basis for a friendship outside of the office setting. That has been my point all along- Sharing one hour of intimacy does not translate into a friendship. In my MT mode, that would be a selfish assumption on my part.
 


Handsonlmt, you stated pretty unequivically (in bold typing) in your post that there is no place for friendship in the office. I disagree. But, apparently we also have different definitions of what a friendship is. So, perhaps we aren't so far apart on this issue?

I don't agree that a friendship does not exist if there is no contact outside of the office. I am "friendly" with all my clients. And then there are other clients where there is a connection; and it is warmer and more than just friendly. ( and hard to describe) In paraphrasing one of the points you are trying to make: is that we, as therapists should not be using our clients as an outlet for friendship, or putting any friendship-type responsibilities onto our clients. --this I whole-heartedly agree.

I thought I described pretty well that my experience has been that many clients need to feel that connection and friendship to be able to unwind and relax and receive massage. That is the type of session I was referring to. I hope you did not feel that I was disparaging your approach to treatment sessions, and I apologize if it came across like that.

Noel
 


I thought I described pretty well that my experience has been that many clients need to feel that connection and friendship to be able to unwind and relax and receive massage. That is the type of session I was referring to. I hope you did not feel that I was disparaging your approach to treatment sessions, and I apologize if it came across like that.

Noel

I believe the connection "type of session" you share with your clients is the "standard" in the business of Massage Therapy. In other words, yours is not a unique experience. Please understand, this is not a slight but the nature of our business.
However, I believe that it is important that we read the intitial post again-carefully. This woman has put a great deal of importance on what her MT says and does. That is a huge responsibilty. It is definately one that can be exploited by the MT or the client. She mentions that he offers her advise and guidance. She respects his opinion and has great trust for him. She is human and has a habit of becoming attached. What does that mean? Will she stalk him, call him late at night when she is feeling needy or in need of his advice? She assures us that "nothing romatic" is involved just "pure friendship". Next couple of posts she suggests that the things she shares with him are very deep and different from those he may be hearing from his "other clients". A connection much deeper then a friendship has crossed her mind. We all know and understand it as transference. The therapeutic relationship is not a friendship. It is a delicate balance of trust, compassion and care between the client and the MT. Care is required or as our poster has suggested, you can end up on a pedestal and it really hurts when you hit the ground
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธBarbara Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. Golden Flower Spa:
  40. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  41. Pink Flower Spa:
  42. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: Super SPINNER SUMMER (10am-9pm): is a super petite student, very small and slim, 5โ€™3โ€ & super spinner 90 pounds, All Natural 33B Cups & 33โ€ Spinner Hips, very young looking with her pretty baby face. Great at bbbj dfk cim
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and young flirty Yoyo 30โ€™s with 36DD and big buttocks open mind,young student Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  45. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Kelly and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Gigi, Sara & Tracy. Gigi is slim and young, with long hair. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs.
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 15 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธSABHA, PREET, SARIKA, PRIYA, MIMI, SASHA, AMANDA, JOEY, SUMMER, ANAYA, AMMU, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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