Improving your chances

[lovejuice]

Good to know Thanks Pete.

 

[Melly<3]

One more thing.

There are lots of places which employ girls from the Philippines, Korea and China and they're usually a lot more forgiving with foreigners.

Sure, it's kind of silly banging a non Japanese in Japan but the girls are very hot - especially the Korean delivery health girls. They also tend to be cheaper than Japanese providers and as an added bonus, they'll usually allow vaginal sex as part of the package.

 

[POM MOM..GUNNER AND DIXIE]

Vaginal sex is theoretically illegal but there is one exception - soapland.

I say theoretically because if you happen to be a regular client, the chances are that the provider may become a little more liberal in her services.

 

[watchmeshineee]

One thing that will save you tons of time... use a fuzoku website like manzoku.or.jp You can call 20 stores in in half an hour and find one in your price range. It sure beats going door to door with your hat in your hand. It does require some language skill, but not an insane amount.

Another idea, of course, is to bring a Japanese friend and make him find a place. Some countries have attitudes like "don't touch our women" but Japan is more like "don't you agree our women are the best in the world?" so it may be easier to find a Japanese partner in crime then you'd expect.

Also, keep your budget expectations realistic. If you want to go to a soapland, generally expect to pay 40,000-70,000 yen. A pink salon, depending on time, 8,000-15,000 yen, other things someplace in between.

 

[Goethe]

That's so weird !
They have non-sense laws in Japan when it's about sex.

Best example is porn, you can't see a cock or pussy but you can see 50 men cumming and pissing on a woman... or worst shitting on her. (sorry, second time I talk about this today. Coincidence... lol) If we make a survey, sure 100% westerners think Bukkake is more shocking then a picture of a pussy.

Asians have a rational thinking very different from ours !

 

[K G]

It means that you can have anal sex with the girl.
The law is very clear (so I'm told) that only regular penetrative vaginal sex is illegal.
Everything else is possible but the great majority of the girl do not do AF.
Where availble it usually costs $80~$100 extra.

 

[fish_in_dish_water]

Hey OZ, what's a AF/Anal mean?

 

[ben_terna]

Not going at peak times is one of your two best tips. I suspect often the brothel wouldnt mind having a gaijin customer but worries that racist regular clients might leave complainig about gaijin. I never go to brothels even here during peak times anyway,the less busy the gals are the more I like it.
Dressing well is the other top tip, and very important in Japan. Always wear freshly pressed shirts every day. Speaking Japanese helps but is less important than dressing well and going off peak.
Being sober is irrelevant in Japan and you shouldnt be too polite if you are over 30 or theyll lose respect for you.
Great tip not to be cheap since I fully agree that most gaijin are. I used to work with Nova teachers who considered a starbucks coffee a month a luxury and couldnt believe I could afford trainfare to central Tokyo and back nightly.

 

[flingebunt]

Unfortunately I cant read Japanese since Ive never studied it. If I could read Japanese Id say Id have had even better p4p experiences. I can speak basic Japanese but I wouldnt even consider myself intermediate level.

 

[snowball45830]

True enough, I am totally guessing on the black/south asian thing.
I was just specualting based on the general japanese attitudes towards non-white gaijin being even less good than their attitudes towards white gaijin.

 

[pooh Bear]

Most tips were spot on Denkicash, except about being black or south asian. Although I am white I knew a few black men in Tokyo who were punters and from what they told me their success rate for p4p was about the same as mine. As a white man from an overwhelmingly white country the experiance of racial discrimination was new for me.
A black american mate in Tokyo told me that he didnt mind the discrimination in Japan as much as in America for 2 reasons.
1. Discrimination in Japan almost as bad for white gaijin as black gaijin.
2. Far less discrimination than in the US for him.
South Asian I dont really know, having known no south asian chaps in Tokyo.
But I saw plenty of south asians in Tokyo because I ate at their numerous restaurants often. Also Ive seen quite a few south asian businessmen there.

 

[infinite crisis 247]

To balance my other post about why we get turned away here are some tips for getting turned away as little as possible.

Feel free to add you own tips.

It's worth noting that even if you follow all of these tips most places will still refuse you service.

*- Look for places that are newly opened, they won't have regular customers and can't afford to turn anyone away without good reason* - this is by far the best tip I can offer!

- Speak Japanese
- Go at off-peak times such as weekday afternoons, heavy rain
- Don't go at peak times (pretty much every evening)
- Don't be wanting to pay by credit card
- Dress presentably
- As soon as you walk in, like before the guy at the counter gets a chance to react to you, tell them (in Japanese) what you want - don't order the cheapest course: one reason they don't like gaijin is because they are all cheap skates. If you know the names of some of the girls that work there ask if they are working today.
- NEVER walk in and say "hi, gaijin wa, ok desu ka?"
- Make it abundantly clear that you understand the rules, you will not try and fuck the girls and only want a blow job (unless you are ordering an AF/anal course).
- Tell them that you have been in other places before.
- Be sober
- Be polite, and try and use to Japanese mannerisms
- Be smaller than the dude behind the counter: if you are bigger than him he is gonna be thinking that if you do cause trouble he won't be able to subdue you.
- Don't be black or south asian (not sure about being middle eastern, latin, or other asian).
- By all means swing by one of those information booths, and IF there are no Japanese punters in there see if the guy can help you find somewhere, if there are Japanese punters they will almost definately refuse to help you.
- If you have seen their website, and it is great (well produced), and all their girls are hot 18 or 19 year olds, then sure stick your head in on the off chance, but I have never been accepted in one of these places, they are so popular that I wouldn't be suprised if they turn Japanese customers away too. (If their website and girls are not 1st class then you are in with a chance).