Need some advice please...

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I have a client scheduled for my practicum next week who is very large lady. I have a couple questions. I am not sure how much different it will be as far as pressures , I mean, I know it's relative for all people but do extremly large clients need deeper pressure to get to the muscles? Also she will be hanging off the sides of my table, is there anything I can do to help her feel more secure so she is not feeling like she's gonna topple off? I'm concerned we will be putting major stress on the table and I am almost afraid to add the working wieght.Please note.... I am NOT being mean.... I am honestly not feeling like I know how to handle this situation. I have a love for all people , shapes and sizes...these are just honest things I have never encountered and I want to make her feel comfortable and to come back. Any advice on treating large clients would be appreciated. Thanks
 
Need some advice please...

If you are concerned that your table might not be able to withstand her weight and the working weight, I'd contact the client to ascertain how much she weighs. Additionally, I'd make sure there are NO contraindications involved (most specifically those associated with obesity or grossly obese people).As for strokes, if you have training in thermal therapies, you might consider using a heating treatment to warm up the tissues. And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.
 
First of all... has she been a client to the clinic before, and are all the tables the same? ย I am assuming that she has been there before since you have the heads up on her size. ย For your own sake, find out what weight the table can handle and just estimate. ย If she has been there before, and everything went fine, I wouldn't worry about it unless she is on the fringe of the table weight. ย I would drop my table a few notches that way you are comfortable and are not straining yourself through body mechanics. ย Also, watch when she gets on the table, if it creaks and bows (common sense) is that she is too heavy and should not be worked on, and your added pressure can collapse the table, especially if it is a portable table. ย Because the last thing you need is to get hurt before you are even out there, and you really don't want your client to get hurt.I definitely know what you mean, when I was in school, I convinced my shiatsu teacher to let us work on the tables, because I have had 2 knee surgeries and can't kneel down so working on the floor is extremely difficult. ย Now I am not a small woman, I am very athletic, large framed and dense. ย So I am not a lightweight, well my partner for the day was a woman who makes me look small... ok, so when we were working we had to sit on the table to get the connection and do the hara assessment... well oh boy did that table creak and shift when she sat down. ย I know we were maxing out the weight and since it was a portable table, it isn't one flat slab of wood... I was so afraid that we were going to end up on the floor!!! ย By the way this was a wooden aurora oakworks table. ย So just take precautions and use common sense. ย I know it will be hard to turn away a client, but safety should be your first concern. ย But if she has been there before, she feels safe and has come back, and you will be ok.
 
Need some advice please...

And yes, your body is going to take a beating from the added work in order to provide an effective session.

Just a note that an effective session doesn't have to give your body a "beating" no matter what, if one pays attention to body mechanics and uses available tools. ย Being a fat client is not an assault on the practitioner.

To the original poster: ย I have many regular clients who are "morbidly obese" (one of my target markets) and their pressure requirements vary as much as do those of the very tiny client or clients of any other size and body composition. ย Just as many extra-big people need very light pressure as need very heavy, so checking in with her can be exactly the same as it is for any other client you've ever seen. ย You might consider setting your table a little lower than usual, for your comfort and hers. ย If you don't have side extensions for her arms, you can always tuck the sheet in under the length of her arms while not working on her back or arms. ย I do this for clients of all sizes (if they're not claustrophobic!) and many like the feeling of security.

There are few tables on the market that couldn't handle even a very heavy (500+ lb.) client. ย I don't have a special heavy-duty table and it holds up great even with the largest of clients. ย I'd be very very wary of asking her weight because my god how rude, but she also may be worried about the table herself so knowing your table's max will help you keep her safe. ย To reassure yourself -- how many times have 4 or 5 students sat together on one table during a demonstration in class, and how many times has a table busted under the pressure? ย (This used to happen all the time when I was a student and the number of table failures was zero.)

Your care and concern for your client will show. ย It's up to her whether to come back but I have no doubt you'll provide a caring, quality session.
 
Thanks everyone. You have been helpful and reassuring. ย  I was so not wanting anyone to think I was being rude ย :(. I will not ask her wieght, I would never do that . I hate it when people ask me mine ( I could stand to lose about 50 lbs myself idealy) So thanks for the tips. ย ;D I really appreciate it.
 
If you have purchased a decent table from one of the major manufacturers, you should be all set - they are made to to be sturdy. ย Give them a quick call to dbl check (as mentioned above). I wouldn't bother with asking her weight, don't think it's necessary & agree that it could be considered rude. My other suggestion would be to double check all the nuts & bolts. ย I know that my portable will work its way loose from time to time & it's just good common sense maintanence that should be checked often anyway. ย 
 
Being both obese and a student of massage, I can share experience from both sides of this issue. ย When we studied people of size in the special populations units, there was a suggestion in our text (Mosby's Fundamentials of Therapeutic Massage) that if the table couldn't handle the client, give the session on the floor. ย With all due respect to the MT/author, this is a terrible solution! ย Not only would it be embarassing, but it is often difficult and sometimes painful to get down on and up from the floor. ย Pressure: start LIGHT and work deeper at the client's request. ย Use more whole-hand strokes; fingers pinch and poke and may cause bruising. ย Adipose tissue is very fragile, containing one mile of capillaries for every pound of tissue. ย Fascia adhesions are common, and painful as well. ย My arms are especially sensitive, but my back can handle much firmer touch. ย  ย When you say hanging off the table, do you mean the sides of her body will? If so, try side-lying massage techniques like you'd do for a pregnant client. ย Large arms do not lay flat on the table. ย If you don't have a armrest on your table, roll your stool over and let her use it to rest her arms in a prone position. ย In supine, she may choose put her arms up under her head, as one of my clients does. Be sure to tuck the drape well at her side.Our Earthlite tables creak under any weight (and frequently loose screws), but the Tatum, Oakworks {and ...I forget the other brand at the moment} are much more stable.I appreciate that you took the time to get some advice. ย We all have hang ups about different issues with clients and this is a great place to discuss them "safely" w/o hurting feelings. ย 
 
Thanks for all the advise again. I felt SO bad having to ask but honestly wanted to know what was best to do so she will have a good experience and not because of any hang ups I have. I need to lose about 60 lbs as of this morning so I am last one to talk. I just was so concerned about how strict these table weights really are and it would make me feel AWFUL if I in anyway made this client feel insecure or worse yet get hurt.All your replies are appreciated I am feeling a bit less worried now. You all are great. ย ;D
 
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    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  34. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  35. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  36. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  37. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  47. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅOur famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday May 29th with busty 36DD young girl Bobo, Sexy New Petite Japanese Cutie Mico and Sweet Sensual Busty Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Call Annie Spa to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐ŸฉทAnnie Spa๐Ÿฉท 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 โ˜Ž๏ธ647-891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ
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