Should MSOG be an extra at MP's

[Authentic Black American]

Independent Provider:
Price range $200-$300 and hrMost GFE services are all-inclusiveUp-charges only exist for PSE servicesAlways guaranteed an hour
MP Provider:
Price range $200-$300 and hrGFE services are not all-inclusive$50-$100 dollars for extra shot on GoalUp-charges also exist for PSE services +$100 on averageGetting a full hour depends on the provider. Some girls make sure their client get an hour and some ladies rush a guy$350-$400 for Safe GFE with MSOG
I notice that quite a few of the MP's have been slow recently. I have also seen tons of ads from MP gals on CL this year. It use to be a very rare event a couple of years ago to see any MP providers using CL to advertise.

Out of the 4 MP I checked out yesterday. I was the only guy there. This is at 2pm on a Saturday afternoon. I tried to book with 3 of the local independent providers and they were all busy until after 6pm. All these ladies offer safe GFE sessions with MSOG for $250-$280.

On a day that several local MP's are dead, the independent providers too busy to book an appointment with until the sun goes down. There are some amazing ladies working at Edmonton's MP's. The quality of the service can't be the issue.

Mayday told about a lady he tried book an outcall with from one of our local MP's that wanted $400 for safe GFE outcall. Not a very competitive offer considering how many amazing independents are charging $250-$300 for MSOG Full/Safe GFE outcalls.

Don't get me wrong. A lot of my favorite ladies are working at the MP's. The SP's I see on a regular basis at Legends and EBC never rush my sessions and I always give me an hour or slightly more. This decision will always come down to the quality of the provider for me. Over the past 2 years so many amazing independent providers have entered the Edmonton scene making the choice between indie providers and MP providers a much harder one for may of the hobbyist in the city.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Glad to see you took my advice on the bullet point format.

 

[shibby]

I think your missing a selection...
Doesn't really matter, not applicable to me cause I can't reload within the hour
mayday

 

[Prayest]

LOL Mayday i think it's the same thing as

*Does not matter, as long as I get an hour I am fine

 

[thebomb]

Those are the reasons why most Indie SP's are doing so much better than the MPA's. They give great VFM and services as a rule.

The writing is on the wall for MP's that charge a lot and provide poor VFM.
Because of this, I have not been to an MP in over a year and pretty much only see the indie SP's.

 

[Lorenzo]

I voted no..no it shouldn't be an extra at all, If you are donating for an hour it should be included
I'm starting to lean toward indies and traveling girls just for the vfm
mp's are more convenient but vfm isn't nearly as good

 

[Mummy 2 Lorenzo]

Fiddy, I don't think it will change things no matter how many of these posts ya make. I do admire you for your effort in trying to improve things. In order for change to occur you have to get all stakeholders on board. Without a strong majority of MPAs in agreement, nothing will change.

 

[. otto.saxo .]

i agree ..mp's will become drier than a grain of sand if indies and traveling girls offer better vfm....why pay top dollar for 1 shot when 2 is offered readily... and frequently...If mp's offered msog with their pricing we may have an active market...but they don't ....and everyone wonders why mp's are empty especially around x mas when they should be competing with indies for clientele

vfm is with the indies and traveling girls ...I'll stick with them for the time being

 

[man290663@btinternet.com]

I 1000% agree Dark Knight. We're at fault too. We've accepted one price hike after another while the amount of service we receive at many of the MPA's has been reduced. I am way past the point of trying to fix it and at the point of saying to hell with it!

For the most part, I have lost all hope that most of the MPA's will do anything. My last few road trips to Calgary have given me a different kind of hope. The hope that Edmonton will have and indie scene on par with the one Calgary.

Until then, we all we have to be green and envious of what our peers in Calgary get to enjoy on a daily basis.

The guys that really piss me off are the one's that drop $300 an hour for ladies that have no clue what GFE means and ladies that walk a client after 30 minutes of service. Even worse they come back to the board and write a glowing White Knight reviews. What a bunch of dumb-asses.

I honestly I do expect something to change and that will be the independents are going to take over the market just like they have in the rest of Canada. Winnipeg and Edmonton are the last two major cities with MP's in control of the market.

Edmonton is at a tipping point where if the MP's don't respond soon, they will loose their share of the market for forever. The state of the economy won't be a factor when it does happen.

 

[Megan N]

Agreed fiddy, the mp's and the cartel will only have themselves to blame when things go sideways.

Already the mp gals must have figured something is going wrong when they have to work CL with all it's risks and long hours

The visiting gals have been a much better vfm for a long time, alas we still don;t have a real indy scene here, and let's just forget about the damn escort agencies

One real quick question, why is it ok if you mention price, services, vfm, but if myself, UB or mick say a thing you crap on us? Just wondering...

 

[EatDaCakeAnnieMay!]

First thing First....50/50....your way to stressed out and need to have a drink.

I offer msog with no extra fee for my 1hr play as some guys bank on their physiological ability to get 2 rounds in a 1hr playdate.

Most of the time this works and msog is successful. Then I am very proud of myself as if I brought home a good report card lol...

Now the guys that know the chances are very slim they are gona bang out 2 rounds in an hour (most guys are like this) and they tell me when I ask if they are a msog or not type. And this is quite a treat in itself as you can tease, play, build up then hold off a few times more to get a better finnish. Some guys have been around the bend a bit & know if you have a longer slow shot it is more pleasurable than trying to nail 2 rounds in 1hr. Overall in this situation they just relax, enjoy the massage play, chat and don't have to stress the msog.

Just my 2 pennies.

But seriously...u need a drink.

 

[simasu01]

I think MSOG should be included with the hour as I consider the entire hour playtime. That having been said, i'm still trying to fire off the first shot after numerous attempts and fails

 

[slave2luv xxx-mas elf]

At the risk of thoroughly being laughed at, I'm willing to help out with 'firing that first shot'.

I had that problem too the first three times I was at an MP. It wasn't until I visited a very kind MP that I happened to find out why. It took her alot to get me to 'fire' and rather than be rude like another MP I saw, she kindly asked me if I masturbated alot. She did it in a manner that made me decide to set honesty to 'on'. I said 'yes'. She asked if I was single and if I pleasured myself alot. Again 'yes'. I workout 5-6days a week and usually clear the pipes prior to the 1.5hr cadio I do (workouts can cause woodies. Not cool around a bunch of guys). She told me (it was mentioned here) to hold off for at least 5 days a week cause everytime you do it you lose sensitivity, not to mention Palmela and her 4 sisters is very different from the real thing.

So I did. It was the hardest 5 days in a looooong time. Then I got the most blissful orgasm in my entire life with her. I swear she made me explode for a good 3 minutes. I thought I was gonna faint.

Okay, y'all can laugh now. But that worked for me. And it's gonna work from now on. Hope that helped.

 

[xxabbyxxjoexx]

Whoops, forgot to answer the original poll. I'm of two minds about this. I'm the kind of guy who can (and did) get hard again in 5 minutes. But I like to be very gentle with the ladies. I'm sure that not everyone is like me. I know that around the 10min mark some girls will start to hurt when your sliding them the meat.

If you're gentle and the lady really enjoyed it and can go more than no, MSOG shouldn't be extra.

But if the lady is hurting/sore and you're ready to go again it really should be up to their discretion.

We have to remember that we're in their work environment. To a certain extent they need to set some rules. Everything should be fair. Within reason I would not respect someone coming to my job and telling me what to do.

But that's just me.

 

[Beetlle]

Besides needing a drink, I don't disagree with you here. I am a casual social drinker at best.

I would much rather one amazing orgasm than a couple of small one's. MSOG is really an insurance policy that guarantees a guy a full hour of service.

On more positive note, Edmonton is also blessed lot's of stellar MPA's that have no issue giving a client a great hour even when only single shot on goal is provided.

It's really too bad these hard working ladies also lose potential clients because there is an equal number of lazy MPA's that don''t care about their customers at all.

They are some amazing MPA's in the city that deserve props for their hard work. I wish we would quit rewarding the lazy MPA's with money and good reviews they don't deserve.

I think most guys would be happy if the MP's would have a satisfaction guarantee whereby the clients are guaranteed the hour they pay for. A lot of us tired of getting ripped off by the rotten apple MPA's that don't care about their clients.



We agree for the most part. I would rather not argue with any of you. It frustrates me when you guys attack an entire studio even when most of the ladies at that MP are doing their jobs and it's just a few rotten apple in the bunch causing the problem.

This thread is about the MPA's that are ripping off clients. It's not about the fantastic MPA's that do a great job taking care of us.

 

[Anna :D]

Nostril that's a good point the MP's tend to be a little more of a factory though and the ladies from what I here in talking to some don't get a whole lot of break time to rest, whereas the Independant ladies can set the number of clients they want to see in a day, so they can build in some rest times. So yeah I think it can be physically challenging for them to "Take the meat" as you say. Having said that there are other ways to get a guy off. If he's able to go MSOG and has spent the same to see an MP provider that he would spend to see a Indie provider then yeah he should be able to have MSOG, there really should be almost no difference in service between the two for the same dollars. IMHO

 

[Blair W]

It's already been said but this thread strikes a nerve with me.

If I pay for one hour of 'fun' it should not matter how much 'fun' I have during the hour. If it is 300$ per shot then call it what it is damn it.

I have been to Carries VIP in Fort McMurray three times. Each time I paid for one hour and was out in under 30 minutes. This is why I do no visit that establishment anymore. One lady said to me, upon me saying I wasn't there for the full hour, that I couldn't expect to have sex for the full hour. Okay, continois penetration for a full hour is off the menu, got'cha. What about just eying two pops in within that hour?

This topic frustrates me beyond belief as I need at least two pops to leave satisfied and feel the cost was justified.

Call me mechanical, call me what you will.... But MAN dos that MP BS piss me off.

I just wish we had more indys coming up here. Like CrystalX for instance, hint hint, wink, nudge ;-)

Phew. Happy I got that off my chest. Lol

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

GF

 

[Bubbly!]

Let's put this into perspective.

For an Hour of Service, you should Get an Hour of Service even if you pop your load before you climb outta the shower.

I don't really know of too many professions that charge $4 or $5 a Minute. So if you're being lead out the door in 30 Minutes, you are actually paying $8 or $10 per Minute.

$240 = 1 Weeks Worth of Groceries.
$240 = 1 Ounce of Weed
$240 = 12 Cases of Beer
$240 = 5 Tanks Full of Gas

I could go on, but most can see my point. There are other things we could spend our money on that give us personal satisfaction in one way or another.

$240 = 1 Full Hour of an SPs Time no matter how many times you shoot.

Period.

 

[sixxy]

This is an awesome statement and should be how it goes. But more and more I see that it doesn't. And even if the guy is only capable of one release then the rest of the time should be companionship. Because that is what we are paying for right?

 

[Foxy Lady Wanna bite ?]

Absolutely, wonder if any of the MP's care to respond. Had an occasion recently to partake in the pleasure of the ladies at legends. PIcked my girl, had some fun, no massage offered, GFE purchased at $$$, only light kissing, no tongue, no after massage either finished up clock in the room said hour was up, thought holy heck that went fast did the shower thing got the knock on the door saying times up, peck on the cheek and a hug out the door get back to my truck and WTF I was only in there for 50 minutes and that included waiting 5 for the girl parade and another 5 while I showered.

Nice, I did wonder why it was so quiet when I went in, hmm I think I understand why now.

Next time I got the urge for some fun I decided on an Indy SP, and well world of difference I actually got everything promised the GFE was that and we went over by 20 minutes. And it cost $$.5 again WTF