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:rolf Nope ... a rolling stop is a failure to stop. As per the highway traffic act you can get a ticket between $300 - for failling to stop at a sign and $1,000 running a red light

He simply did what cops do best, try to intimidate drivers into making a driving mistake so they can justify pulling you over.



In Canada, checking your plate before stopping you, is illegal and a violation of your rights ... look it up



It is against the law; An officer pulling over a driver constitutes a detention, an officer must have reasonable suspicion in order to execute a detention. but they can invent anything in order to detain you. fortunately in Ontario most cops tent to be honest.
Ha ha. Where have you been reading this crap? Stopping is not detaining. Arresting is detaining. So, you're trying to tell me that everytime I was stopped by the police, I could have reported them? I must have been stopped 10 times so far in my lifetime for no reason. Come on, buddy boy. Be reasonable.

And another thing, lots of times when I was stopped, how did they already know my name and where I lived, when they've never seen me before, and I was in a far away city from where I lived? Obviously they check plates. They check plates all the time without pulling you over. If you think it's against the law, you're dreaming.

The police have computers that are so advanced, that most people don't have a clue. When they are looking for a stolen car, all they need to do is park by the side of the highway. The computer scans every plate for every vehicle driving by. When the computer detects a stolen vehicle, it alerts the police almost instantly. It also sends the message to headquarters, so the whole force knows about it. You guys don't have a clue what powers the police have nowadays.

Also, running a red light is no where near $1000. I don't want to encourage you to run a red light, but most of the damage is when your insurance company dings you. That will actually hurt you more than the fine itself.

Yes, a rolling stop is not a legitimate stop. You are correct there. I was just using that phrase as a description to the type of stop he made, or lack thereof.
 
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Ha ha. Where have you been reading this crap? Stopping is not detaining. Arresting is detaining. So, you're trying to tell me that everytime I was stopped by the police, I could have reported them? I must have been stopped 10 times so far in my lifetime for no reason. Come on, buddy boy. Be reasonable.

C'mom man !!!, if we are gonna argue lets make it intelligent, not just for the sake of arguing opposite views

There is no crap being read anywhere

Stopping is detaining, is right in the description in the dictionary

What is meaning of stopped?
verb (used without object), stopped or (Archaic) stopt; stop·ping. to come to a stand, as in a course or journey; halt. to cease moving, proceeding, speaking, acting, operating, etc.; to pause; desist; detain. to cease; come to an end.

What is meaning of detained?
1 : to hold or keep in or as if in custody detained by the police for questioning. 2 obsolete : to keep back (something due) : withhold. 3 : to restrain especially from proceeding was detained by a flat tire. Other Words from detain Choose the Right Synonym More Example Sentences Learn More about detain.

Also the highway and traffic act Ontario specifies
You are being detained when the police stops you and give you reasons to believe you are legally obligated to stop and stay with them or comply with their requests or demands.

If you are stopped by the police you are detained as per the dictionary definition of the words and by the highway and traffic act Ontario. Once you are stopped by the police you are detained from free movement and NOT FREE to leave, if you leave without being granted leave you can be no only further detained but arrested for failure to comply


The fact that you were stopped and didn't know you were detained speaks only to the lack of knowledge by the public at random.


And another thing, lots of times when I was stopped, how did they already know my name and where I lived, when they've never seen me before, and I was in a far away city from where I lived? Obviously they check plates. They check plates all the time without pulling you over. If you think it's against the law, you're dreaming.

Just because they do it DOES NOT MEAN is legal

Sure, they knew your name address and date of birth BEFORE they approach you, How ?? They had already check Your license plate; Is it legal ?? Hell no why???? Well is right there in the charter of rights ...

Section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms provides everyone in Canada with protection against unreasonable search and seizure. This right provides Canadians with their primary source of constitutionally enforced privacy rights against unreasonable intrusion from the state.
This right typically, this protects personal information that can be obtained through searching someone in pat-down, entering someone's property or surveillance.

punching your plate BEFORE stopping you is unlawful surveillance


The police have computers that are so advanced, that most people don't have a clue. When they are looking for a stolen car, all they need to do is park by the side of the highway. The computer scans every plate for every vehicle driving by. When the computer detects a stolen vehicle, it alerts the police almost instantly. It also sends the message to headquarters, so the whole force knows about it. You guys don't have a clue what powers the police have nowadays.

Sorry to burst your bubble but this computer you claim police have only exist in your mind, Not even movies have them.
What you are Saying is that this "supercomputer" has the ability to scan hundreds of license plates at a distance of 5 to 20 meters in about 1/10th of a second, process all the data and get back to the display of a police cruiser with positive results all this before the vehicle in question disappears in traffic ... hmmmm

And if the police have this super speedy computer in every cruiser; Why punch your plate when they stopped you? why not just scan your plate ?
Maybe police cars are driving around with the Arm-powered Fugakus, O wait there only one of those in the world soooo, I guess not.


Also, running a red light is no where near $1000. I don't want to encourage you to run a red light, but most of the damage is when your insurance company dings you. That will actually hurt you more than the fine itself.

As per the Ontario Highway Traffic Act Section 144 (18)
“Every driver approaching a traffic control signal showing a circular red indication, or red light and facing the indication shall stop his or her vehicle and shall not proceed until a green indication is shown.”

Exception: “Despite subsection 144(18), a driver, after stopping his or her vehicle and yielding the right of way to traffic lawfully approaching so closely that to proceed would constitute an immediate hazard, may, turn to the right; or turn to the left from a one-way street into a one-way street, without a green indication being shown”.

A conviction for red light – fail to stop carries:

Set fine of $260.00 + surcharge.
3 Demerit Points.

Any conviction for red light – fail to stop will stay on your driving record for 3 years. Insurance companies tend to view failure to stop as a major offence, and your premiums could be affected as a direct result.

Failing to stop at a red light or stop sign
Penalties

The penalty for failing to stop is a fine and three demerit points. If you fight the ticket and are convicted, the fine can be set between $200 and $1,000. A conviction for failing to stop at a red light or stop sign will remain on your record for three years. If you fail to stop for a school bus the penalty is a fine and six demerit points.

The set fine for running a red light when caught by a police officer is $325. Unlike a traditional red light traffic ticket, there are no red light camera ticket demerit points. You will not receive red light camera ticket demerit points in Ontario if you are caught running a red light on camera. You are still subject to the $325 fine.

Yes, a rolling stop is not a legitimate stop. You are correct there. I was just using that phrase as a description to the type of stop he made, or lack thereof.

Contrary to what you say a rolling stop IS NOT a stop. A stop sign or a red light demands coming to a full or complete stop; A complete stop is when there is no forward momentum and the needle on the speedometer is at 0. In a rolling stop, the car wheels are still in motion and the car is moving at less than 10 k.p.h. Failing to come to a complete stop at a stop sign is a traffic violation governed by provincial laws.
 
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