Treating a client with MS

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I am interested in any and all suggestions or comments regarding working with clients who have MS. I have a 32 year old male I am treating weekly and I want to be as effective as I can be. I have treated clients with this malady before but it was usually in the later seforum.xxxes of the disease where they are wheelchair bound and I have to pick them up out of their chairs and put them on the table. This young man is still ambulatory but his legs are getting weak. He responds to what I do but I just want to know if anyone has found an effective way to address this in their own work.

I am currently using assisted stretching, various massage modalities and CST and he has success with this but it's usually short term success. I am eager to hear any other suggestions or experiences.

Thank you.
 


I have not worked with someone with MS. Do you have the book Clinical Massage Therapy by Rattray & Ludwig? If not and you would like the information, PM me and I will fax it to you.
 


elsewhere said:
Thank you. Great recommendation!

Yowza!!! It ain't cheap though!

lol, noooo, it ain't cheap ~ but it is a very valuable resource.

For those unfamiliar with the book, the subtitle is, "Understanding, assessing and treating over 70 conditions." I found it a blessing when I did my case study on a client with Spinal Cord Injury, and have referred to it often during my career.
 
Treating a client with MS

elsewhere said:
I am currently using assisted stretching, various massage modalities and CST and he has success with this but it's usually short term success. I am eager to hear any other suggestions or experiences.

Thank you.

From my reading on MS and fitness therapy it sounds like you are on the right course for this client. My source recommends "PNF techniques...as a primary means of restoration and function."

I know a woman with MS, I see her maybe once or twice a year when she visits the area, but she gets regular massage in her hometown. Along with her fabulous meds, she also does yoga three times a week and cardio. So I don't have anything experience wise to share. Except to say that she is doing great with her maintenance of massage, yoga, cardio and meds...and naps when she needs them.

So I wonder, is your client doing anything outside of massage to maintain the work?
 
Treating a client with MS

tribute said:
So I wonder, is your client doing anything outside of massage to maintain the work?

Thanks for your question. He leads a very busy life with two young sons aged 1 and 3. He's a really good Dad but I don't think he has much time left for himself. I do have him swimming though and he says that is helping him. Yoga makes sense. I will mention it to him.
 


I totally get the busy factor. If your client can learn some yoga poses that would be good to keep up strength and balance, I bet his kids would LOVE doing yoga with him at home. My son loves it when I start doing yoga. He does it with me. Your clients kids are perfect ages, my son is 3 as well and has been watching me do yoga for the past two years.

Swimming was another great recommendation for exercise. I think you are on the right track. It would be interesting to hear anyone else's experience with MS clients.
 


Exercise is the only way for MS clients to retain the strength and motor control they need to avoid/delay being wheelchair-dependent. One of my personal training clients has had MS for over 20 years. It's been a serious battle for her for a long time, but she's still ambulatory. She wrote a short success story which can be read here: http://cstminnesota.com/5.html#susan

Since writing that story, Susan has returned to her writing and given some local readings - things she hadn't done for years. Though MS presents a number of challenges to remaining active, she continues to train with me, and is continuing to improve her balance, strength, and overall capabilities.

Since MS involves demyelinization of the nerves, the fatigue described by so many folks with MS is neurological rather than muscular in nature. Fine motor control and proprioception are early victims, while gross strength in simple movements can easily be maintained or even regained for many years. Balance is further challenged by increasingly poor posture.

I have found AIS stretching to be very safe and effective, and AIS has a wealth of strengthening exercises (see the book at http://www.stretchingusa.com) that work well. Occasionally, performing positional release techniques helps relax overactive muscles, enabling their aneforum.xxxonists to function more effectively by reducing reciprocal inhibition. PRT performed before stretching may make it easier to lengthen chronically tight tissues.

With advanced MS, it is also common to have a certain "mental fog" that impacts memory, cognition, etc. to some extent. Susan is a sharp lady, but she has found some mental tasks more challenging than they used to be. I don't know how much of this is due to neurological changes vs changes in level of daily mental and physical stimulation as personal activity levels and routines change. In any case, Susan has reviewed that her family and friends have commented on various perceived improvements in her memory, problem-solving, writing, comprehending, and other mental skills.

One thing I've found extraordinarily helpful for Susan: Intu-Flow (more info here: http://www.profcs.com/app/?Clk=2217683)

Intu-Flow is a simple follow-along program of light mobility exercises designed to help release excess tension and restore lost joint mobility from head to toe. It includes instruction in simple breathing drills and balance exercises that pretty much anyone can follow, and it's completely compatible with yoga, tai chi, and other mindful exercise practice. As Susan has worked with Intu-Flow, she has regained mobility throughout her body and become much more aware of her body. Though her proprioception is still impaired, she is developing improved sub-conscious awareness and control. At first, she was stumbling from one machine to another, and now she's becoming adept at using her mini-Clubbells to perform complex full-body exercises. It has been an amazing process!

MS clients need light, stimulating exercise that challenges their coordination. In working to master such exercises, they will see tremendous carryover to simpler tasks. Heavier, strength-oriented tasks should be simple and work a wide variety of muscle groups, with some light coordination drills practiced as well. Single sets of many reps tend to fatigue the CNS too quickly, while multiple sets of 5-8 reps (with short breaks between) permit greater CNS recovery and better endurance during an exercise session.

Since some MS clients have difficulty with sweating and may overheat easily, swimming and water aerobics are good options. It's important that trainers and clients be prepared to simply let things cool down now and then during a workout. This makes it very challenging to develop aerobic capacity, but it's possible.

Hope that helps!
 


Jason that was wonderful information. Thank you for taking the time to share it.

I remember reading about your client Susan on your website some time ago and was very impressed with the passion with which she dealt with her situation. You did an amazing job with her.

So far it sounds like as far as the body work goes I am pretty much on the same page with everyone. I'm combining techniques and adapting each week as he seems to have fluctuating symptoms. Thanks for the reminder about the fatigue being more nerve related than muscular. He responds really well to the stretching. My attempts to utilize AIS are mitigated by the fact that the only time I can see this guy is Sunday at 8 or 9 p.m. This is his request as he has a crazy schedule. He is usually so tired by the time I get him a lot of what I do has to be adjusted accordingly so it limits some of the techniques I can use.

I usually end the session doing about 40 minutes of un-windings (I work on him for 2 hours) which he responds to really well. He works out at Equinox Gym but I am not sure about his exercise routine but I do have him swimming for 3 weeks now. There is such good advice in your post I will probably just send it to him.

I have had MS clients before but much more advanced cases where I'd have to take them out of their wheelchair and gently lift onto the table. This guy is young, still ambulatory, a wonderful father and husband and one of those kind of people that you want to go above and beyond to the call of duty for.

So thanks everybody for your help. Even those that PM-ed me with great advice. Much appreciated.
 
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  37. SugarLoveSpa:
    today have tifany mia chrishtina come baby Chuyแปƒn enjoy your time with all service available have beautiful young girl 20 to 30 years old, Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  41. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  45. starjey888:
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  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  47. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Angel ๐Ÿ’• Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can wors
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