What would you do? *Forget it...Just giving up*



hi amanda! (i'm an amanda too)

you have a table, yes? personally, i don't do chair massage anymore. instead i whip out the table with no dressings other than a cradle cover. i have the client lie down and do a shoulder/back/leg routine with them prone. lasts anywhere from 5-15-30 minutes - whatever you want. they're clothed, you can clean the table down very easily and you don't HAVE to have a chair.

then go to vistaprint.com and take advaneforum.xxxe of their free business cards - or even their less expensive ones. you can get a lot of printing from there, for little money. it just takes a little creativity.

don't fret! there is a wealth of information on this board that will help you - and cost you very little.

good luck!
amanda
 


Also a lot of massage stores will rent you a chair for say $15 a day. I know here in San diego Mueller College does along with bodywork emporium.

Jason
 


You could also call the MT's in your area / or the ABMP or AMTA chapters. Maybe you will find an old softie who would be willing to loan you their chair until your first paycheck and then at that point you can pay back rent and get started on a regular rental agreement. Then once you make enough money, you can purchase your own. :)
 


Hi Amanda. I know a lot of therapists have used vistaprint for affordable business cards and have been happy with them. So, that might be something to check out. I like livingwell's suggestion of using a table. If you can do that, I say go that route. If you have to use a chair, can you rent a chair from a local massage school or maybe borrow or rent one from a friend? That may be an option until you save up enough to buy your own. You may be able to find an affordable chair on ebay or on the "for sale" category of this forum. I personally wouldn't do the car title loan. The rates on those can reach triple digits. Good luck.
 


I agree with everything the other posters said, but I would add this:
There is nothing wrong with working a supplemental "crap" job while you are building up bus. as an MT. We all have to make ends meet somehow. And some of those other jobs can be a great source of networking.

Definitely read through the Bus. section here. There is a lot of info about getting started and ways to do it on the cheap.

Oh, and the car loan just seems like a scary idea to me. You don't want to start off in debt if you don't have to.
 


palpable said:
There is nothing wrong with working a supplemental "crap" job while you are building up bus. as an MT.

There is one thing wrong -- if you think of it as a crap job, you will do a crap job, and won't last long enough to make ends meet.

How "worthy" is a masage job if it won't pay the bills vs. a "crap" job that does?

A job is what you make of it.
 


Thanks for all of your responses...you all are right. I have obviously gotten in over my head, and I should just do a job that I know I can make ends meet with.

Thanks for clarifying things for me...especially you, Relax and Rejuvenate. I needed someone to be brutal with me. Dreams won't ffed my family. Thanks for all of your help again, and it has been great knowing you guys for this little bit...wishing you all of the best.

Amanda
 


I was not being brutal - I think you are on the right track.

I object to any job being characterized as crap.

Regarding your situation, you can have a dream to work toward.

But as far as a title loan, that is pretty risky. But you should be able to find a creative solution as mentioned previously
 


LargoLMT said:
Thanks for all of your responses...you all are right. I have obviously gotten in over my head, and I should just do a job that I know I can make ends meet with.

I don't think anyone- especially myself- meant that you cannot make good money doing MT work. On the contrary, I think you will find a lot of folks both on this board and in your community who do well for themselves as MTs.

However, the reality is that many MTs do or have had other jobs to help support themselves until they can make a living doing MT work exclusively. Having to work a non-MT job does not make one a failure, nor does it mean you have to give up being an MT. You just may have to do it with a smaller availability- evenings and weekends, or all day Tuesday and Wednesday and Saturday, or whatever.

And R&R, while I fully understand what you mean by saying that ANY job is what you make of it, I have to argue and say that there are, in fact, truly lousy jobs out there that are nothing more for a lot of folks than a means to an end. But that is another thread....
 


I was glad that I saw this thread today. Times have been very tough here too, and I had to break down and get another job to make ends meet. I have been debating about quitting myself, but I don't want to feel that I have wasted all my time just to end up quitting. I have done some of the suggestions others have put out there, and some have worked, others have not. Things for me have suddenly come to an almost dead stop. Not a good thing by any estimation. But I won't stop, I will keep going until there is no question about being able to continue.
 


RelaxandRejuvenate said:
There is one thing wrong -- if you think of it as a crap job, you will do a crap job, and won't last long enough to make ends meet.

Bunk!

I have had "crap" jobs that I have still done excellent work at. I also have stayed at them for years on end.

There is nothing wrong with working multiple jobs while building a business Amanda. Many of us have done it ---- it takes time to build a business. Don't "forget it" and don't "give up". There's really no reason to. :smt056
 


Hell, I had a whole crap career that I left. I made lots of money and I was very, very good at what I did. But it not only didn't make me happy, it made me miserable; that's why I label it crap.

A job isn't what you make of it; LIFE is what you make of it. You need money to live, so you supplement your income now and try to build a business slowly but surely. That is what I hope to do.

Just a general request, though. Please reconsider deleting original posts. The discussions that ensue benefit other readers that might be in similar situations.

Good luck Largo. I wish I lived in your area; I would have loaned you my chair!
 


sjidoulamt said:
A job isn't what you make of it; LIFE is what you make of it. You need money to live, so you supplement your income now and try to build a business slowly but surely. That is what I hope to do.

Just a general request, though. Please reconsider deleting original posts. The discussions that ensue benefit other readers that might be in similar situations.

:iagree:

and not to mention that nothing worth having should be given up or forgotten about so easily. :2cents:
 


I will say also that with all the "crap" jobs I have had, I have always walked away from them learning something about the job I was in that I took with me or learning about myself in some way. ALWAYS look for the benefit of everything, even if it is that you learned that you were not meant to do that kind of job!
 


dodab said:
I will say also that with all the "crap" jobs I have had, I have always walked away from them learning something about the job I was in that I took with me or learning about myself in some way. ALWAYS look for the benefit of everything, even if it is that you learned that you were not meant to do that kind of job!

I agree with you 100%.
 


I just wanted to apologize for my outburst and for deleting my original post...I know that is annoying :oops:

I have decided to stick it out and to start a bit more slowly. I found a place to rent a chair, and I have scrounged up the money to get my liability insurance (which was really my biggest concern...CYA, ya know? ;) ).

I just allowed myself to get really upset and depressed, but after looking through The Secret once again, and taking a personal inventory of what is important to me and where I want to go with my life, I have decided that I am going to follow through with my dreams after all! I have even found a fellow local LMT to trade sessions with weekly, which I know will really help me mentally and physically...plus, she has 13 years experience and has promised to "take me under her wing" a bit.

Thanks so much for all of your support and for the PMs encouraging me to stick with it...they really did make a difference! I am grateful to have a community like this one that I can turn to for help and support :)
 
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    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒนwelcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time
  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  36. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  37. Spa in Markham:
  38. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  39. Pink Flower Spa:
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cutie & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cutie is young, very pretty, long hair, great services. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open kind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, MIA, NANCY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  44. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have three girls working today, Vivi, Sarah and Kiki. They are young, beautiful, sexy and cute. They can give massages and are also fun
  45. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜so open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  46. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Meera and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  47. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Sexy Busty Girl Faye, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Chloe beautiful good body BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN OR FAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Kelly Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒนwelcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Monday May 12, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿ‘, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿ˜˜, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿค—. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
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